Is Your Social Media Agency Faking It?

by on Nov 11, 2010

As a 20-year vet of the advertising business and someone who successfully built a social media practice within a traditional ad agency, I often get emails, calls and DM’s from client side marketing folks that are trying to answer this question.

Given the newness of social media, clients must really be sure their agency understands and can guide the company’s entry into social media before just handing over the reigns.

While there are likely lots of possible ways to understand if your agency is truly social media ready, here are six things I suggest folks look for when considering hiring their agency to guide your social media program.

1.  Who is the resident social media oracle?

Agencies are like any other company in that they are looking to maximize limited resources (people) to create maximum profits. That’s why most agencies have department heads. Their job is to ensure adequate resources for their departments.

Thus, if your agency’s head social media person isn’t a department head or sitting on the senior management team, when times get tough, you may or may not be able to count on the agency applying maximum resources to their social media department.

2.  How stable is the social media department?

Social media talent is in demand these days. Given this fact and the fact that agencies are notoriously bad about paying entry-level employees meager salaries, be sure to check the age and tenure of the social media staff. If they’re recent college graduates and/or all under 25, they are prime targets for other companies/agencies looking to start their own social media efforts.

This alone isn’t a reason not to hire your agency to do the work, but do be sure to include a “key employee” clause in the contract.

3.  Is anyone listening to them?

I’m not saying the agency and/or their resident social media oracle has to be speaking at every major social media conference. And I’m not saying they have to have 10,000 Twitter followers, or thousands of readers on their agency or personal blog.

But if they truly understand the space, someone, somewhere ought to be asking them to share that knowledge in a public forum. So find out where they’re speaking/writing.

4.  How big is the social media department?

Unlike creative development, public relations and media planning/buying, social media is a year-round work product that demands a constant level of attention. So be sure to see who else the social media team works with and do the math. This will ensure there is adequate personnel capacity to handle your efforts today and tomorrow.

5.  How does the agency answer social media questions?

There are two types of people in the world — those that know things and those that pretend to know things. To determine which kind is working at your agency, ask a number of pointed social media questions-preferably ones you already know the answers to. If you get direct answers, you’re likely in good hands.

If however, you get long-winded, wandering answers that never really seem to directly address the question you asked, you might have a reason to be a bit worried.

6.  Where are the case studies?

Social media isn’t something you can just read about. You have to learn it by doing it.

So ask to see what they’ve learned thus far. If they don’t have those case studies, again, that isn’t necessarily reason enough to look for someone else to handle your social media work.

Just know that they’ll be learning on your dollar and create a compensation agreement that reflects that fact. Many will say that agencies have no role in social media. They say agencies cannot break decades of ingrained interruption thinking.

They say that clients must do it internally or hire social media consultants to lead the charge. Me, I’m not so sure. But more importantly, what do you think?

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A 20-year vet of the advertising world and founder of Converse Digital. I spend my days helping companies and agencies understand how to monitor, create and engage in digital conversations to grow market share and improve customer loyalty. At night...

  • http://jamescooperware.blogspot.com/ James Cooper Ware

    This is a good read Tom, but I do have to say that you have to start somewhere. Yes, it is great to have an arsenal of digital pioneers in your back pocket, but there are hungry individuals out there that are kicking butt and taking names in the digital conversation arena. Your blog is actually very helpful when it comes to getting ones answers ready, for when a potential client asks tough questions. Be ready. Don’t meander. Don’t beat around the bush. Have your answers ready.

    We just finished a big online sweepstakes/contest campaign for a client and it was very successful, in our mind anyway, haha, but, we need to create a case study and have it pitch ready.

    Thanks for the inspiration.

    P.S. I enjoyed your piggyback rant…

  • http://2witterbug.com CharityHisle

    Fantastic post Tom! So many agencies really are faking it… or learning on the fly. Really great points regarding the age of employees and the stability of the agency. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

  • http://twitter.com/daniellesmyname Danielle Hohmeier

    I agree with a lot of your points- having direct answers to questions, offering solutions/case studies, ‘practicing what they preach’- but I disagree wholeheartedly on a few of your other points….

    I work for a small agency (14 people), so no, we don’t have a whole department dedicated to our social media efforts, we have me. We don’t have someone in upper management representing out social media team, because we barely have upper management and are more of a collaborative group. And I’m one of those under 25 kiddos that started working in social media just out of college.

    Yet with all of those strikes against us, I still think we are a solid agency for social media strategy. I don’t think we are ‘pretending’. I think passion, innovative thinking & creativity plays more of a role in choosing an agency to work with- not average age or size or structure…..

  • http://www.tommartin.typepad.com Tom Martin

    Danielle,

    Fair enough points…but I never mentioned size as a qualifier. Even at larger agencies, the SocMe dept is likely going to be small. The comment I made was that the dept has to have the capacity to handle a client’s biz. You’re one person… so you have a max bandwidth after which your agency may be able to say you can do the work but the reality is you can’t… unless you don’t sleep.

    And I stand by my assertion that age has benefit. With all due respect, at “under 25″ you have very little real world marketing experience. Not a knock, just a fact. Marketing has and will continue to be an apprentice industry. You learn here by doing. The stuff you where learning in college was out of date before it was taught to you, just like it was for me and for the guys/gals that preceded me. It’s just the nature of the beast.

    Every lesson I and pretty much any marketing person has learned, we learned because we either screwed something up or were standing close to someone else who did and saw the fallout.

    Thus in this type of industry real-world experience has great value. So while the under 25 crowd knows how to use Facebook, Twitter, etc., they don’t always know how to MARKET with these tools because they don’t yet know how to market. Surely there will always be exceptions to any blanket statement like this but for the most part… I think it’s pretty accurate.

    @TomMartin

  • http://www.tommartin.typepad.com Tom Martin

    Danielle,

    Fair enough points…but I never mentioned size as a qualifier. Even at larger agencies, the SocMe dept is likely going to be small. The comment I made was that the dept has to have the capacity to handle a client’s biz. You’re one person… so you have a max bandwidth after which your agency may be able to say you can do the work but the reality is you can’t… unless you don’t sleep.

    And I stand by my assertion that age has benefit. With all due respect, at “under 25″ you have very little real world marketing experience. Not a knock, just a fact. Marketing has and will continue to be an apprentice industry. You learn here by doing. The stuff you where learning in college was out of date before it was taught to you, just like it was for me and for the guys/gals that preceded me. It’s just the nature of the beast.

    Every lesson I and pretty much any marketing person has learned, we learned because we either screwed something up or were standing close to someone else who did and saw the fallout.

    Thus in this type of industry real-world experience has great value. So while the under 25 crowd knows how to use Facebook, Twitter, etc., they don’t always know how to MARKET with these tools because they don’t yet know how to market. Surely there will always be exceptions to any blanket statement like this but for the most part… I think it’s pretty accurate.

    @TomMartin

  • http://www.tommartin.typepad.com Tom Martin

    James….

    Yes you have to start somewhere… we all do (as did I) but my point, when I started my first social media team, I did it as a skunk works project — not even telling the CEO of the agency I was doing it — until about a year into my efforts. It was only then, once I felt I had a solid understanding of the space, that we began talking openly about the practice area. Unfortunately, sooooo many agencies don’t have that discipline.

    They read a few blog posts and books and go to a few conferences and presto, like magic pixi dust, they know what they are doing. Unfortunately the client only finds out after it’s too late.

    @TomMartin

    PS> Glad you liked the rant… you would ;-))

  • http://www.tommartin.typepad.com Tom Martin

    James….

    Yes you have to start somewhere… we all do (as did I) but my point, when I started my first social media team, I did it as a skunk works project — not even telling the CEO of the agency I was doing it — until about a year into my efforts. It was only then, once I felt I had a solid understanding of the space, that we began talking openly about the practice area. Unfortunately, sooooo many agencies don’t have that discipline.

    They read a few blog posts and books and go to a few conferences and presto, like magic pixi dust, they know what they are doing. Unfortunately the client only finds out after it’s too late.

    @TomMartin

    PS> Glad you liked the rant… you would ;-))

  • http://twitter.com/be3d Ian Greenleigh

    Whew, I just made the cutoff (25)! But your points are valid, and this post was needed. Social media personnel can’t be tacked-on. They need to be fully integrated into the agency, or else they will fail their clients. That simple.

  • Anonymous

    Tom – love your post. As someone that works for a dedicated social media agency, I can gladly say that we can feel good about answering all 6 questions above (and we have 80 people, all of whom are involved in some way shape or form with social… including our CFO and CTO).

  • http://twitter.com/DavidPylyp David Pylyp

    Great Post! Who is actually there? I am constantly canvassed to join a SEO Social Media campaign that can be handled off continent for pennies on the dollar.

    You get what you pay for!
    David Pylyp

  • http://www.kherize5.com Suzanne Vara

    Tom

    Excellent as always. The shiny new tool that agencies are running to jump on. They are seeing this social media as easy and hiring people that know more than they do (which is not hard quite frankly) and poof they have a social media team (I guess 1 person is the new team) and are selling it to their clients (who many times know less than they do about social media and what it takes).

    I have run into this time and time again but sadly even after reading this, we know that agencies will stretch the truth and will talk above the client so that they look real shiny and smart themselves. The rest of us who are doing it right and really know how to market in the social space, will pick up the pieces.

    @SuzanneVara

  • http://www.tommartin.typepad.com Tom Martin

    And know how to write ad posts ;-)) Thanks Aaron… high praise as y’all certainly are one of the legit firms out there.

  • http://www.dealzbydesign.com/nathaniel-deal Nathaniel Deal

    Great article Tom, most companies don’t explore or investigate their reps and your questions can open a lot of eyes…